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Manny out of options?

Manny Ramirez, a sure-fire Hall of Famer, may be out of options, even though many teams need his lively bat

Manny Ramirez, a sure-fire Hall of Famer, may be out of options, even though many teams need his lively bat

Earlier this off-season, free agent Manny Ramirez turned down a 2-year, $45 million dollar contract offer from the Los Angeles Dodgers, the team with which he spent the latter part of 2008. Now, it looks like he should have taken the deal when he had the chance.

Ramirez, a definite Hall of Famer, dominated the National League over the final two months of season in leading the Dodgers into the playoffs. During 53 games with Los Angeles, Ramirez hit an astonishing .396 with 17 homers, 53 rbi’s, and a 35:38 walk/strikeout ratio. Yet, because of his messy breakup with the Boston Red Sox, he failed to impress opposing teams entering free agency. The way he treated the Red Sox was certainly a red flag to teams who had previously thought highly of him, including the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

If anyone needs a bat it would be the Angels. This off-season, they pulled out of the Mark Teixeira Sweepstakes after obtaining him in a mid-season trade with the Atlanta Braves, and now have a huge hole to fill. Outfielder Garrett Anderson, who had been a solid contributor for Anaheim’s franchise for 14 years, wasn’t retained after hitting 15 homers and driving in 84 last season. It was an odd move, even though he’s 36, since they weren’t a clear front-runner to re-sign Teixeira. Currently, they have two holes to fill in their lineup. The Angels have speed and some power in Vladimir Guerrero and Torri Hunter, but need to bring in some more if they want to create a efficient offense next season. They can do this by signing either Adam Dunn, Pat Burrell, Bobby Abreu, or Jason Giambi, all of whom are capable of hitting a substantial amount of home runs. These are all fallback options as, of course, Ramirez would be the most likely choice, but owner Arte Moreno said his team wasn’t genuinely interested.

During the Winter Meetings, Ramirez was confident that the Yankees would offer him a 3-year deal, presumably in the range of $70-75 million dollars. According to Impacto Deportivo, his wish came true, but many New York sportswriters, and co-owners Hank and Hal Steinbrenner,  shot down the report. In light of New York’s signing of Mark Teixeira, I don’t believe talks will resume, especially given their lavish spending this winter. So, to Ramirez’s dismay, he won’t get a chance to play for the Red Sox hated rival, and “get back” at them.

The Philadelphia Phillies were thought to have interest since they parted ways with Burrell, but they signed ex-Seattle Mariner Raul Ibanez to a three-year, $30 million dollar deal. The New York Mets were a viable option as well, but they are in discussions with the Dodgers about acquiring Andruw Jones to play left field. The Washington Nationals also seemed like a prime destination for Ramirez, especially since they lost out on Teixeira, but their General Manager Jim Bowden simply said, “We will not be pursuing Manny Ramirez.”

Apparently, no team wants to go down Ramirez’s road. His agent Scott Boras was his usual greedy self. He was oblivious to how the economy affects potential bidders, and ignorant that Ramirez’s breakup with Boston might greatly lessen interest. Both plummeted Ramirez’s value. Even so, Boras and Ramirez were determined to get as much money as they could. Wrong decision. The Dodgers wouldn’t budge on the only offer that has been made for Ramirez, and eventually pulled it after Boras nor Ramirez returned calls. This infuriated Los Angeles’s General Manager Ned Colletti, who lashed out, saying, “I find it curious. We made an offer and never heard back. We made an arbitration offer and never heard back.” Ramirez and Boras have clearly backed themselves into a wall. The Dodgers have moved on, reportedly contacting the agent of Dunn. This leaves one of the top-3 hitters of this era without a home.

December 29, 2008 - Posted by swamigp | Anaheim Angels, Baseball, Baseball Trade Rumors, Boston Red Sox, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, Los Angeles Dodgers, MLB, MLB Free Agency, MLB Free Agents, MLB Trade Rumors, New York Yankees, Scott Boras, Sports, Washington Nationals | , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , | 6 Comments

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  1. Just wishful thinking by Red Sox fans, and again a story started by ESPN, the premise being that somehow, someway, the Red Sox will be vindicated, and the options of Manny Ramirez will somehow be limited to signing a 1 year $2 million dollar deal with either Kansas City or Pittsburg.

    Saying Ned Colletti was “infuriated” and “lashing out” is beyond an overstatement. The characterization that the Dodgers have closed the door on a return of Manny simply is not true. In fact, in the past several days Colletti has made multiple statements to the contrary.

    Colletti and everybody else in baseball knew that nothing would be happening on the Manny front until after Teixeira signed, and that wouldn’t happen until after Sabathia signed.

    Colletti knew that his original 2 year deal would not be immediately accepted, and you can be certain that as in all negotiations, the first offer was not the best offer.

    Now, would the Dodgers go beyond 2 years on Manny, that is debatable. Right now, that point is moot, because there is clearly no market for Manny beyond the Dodger offer.

    However, it is a mistake to take that to mean that there is no market at all for Manny Ramirez.

    Non-contenders are not interested in Manny because he would be a nightmare on a losing club, contenders know what he can do, especially in September and October, but just do not want to go long term on him, because of his age and attitude.

    Everything with Manny will play out, probably by the end of next week, maybe sooner.

    As it gets down to the wire with Manny, other teams will get into the mix, especially now that it has been pretty much established that it is going to be a 2 year deal. The thinking being, from a risk/reward standpoint, as long as you get one good year out of him, in a worst case scenario, in year 2 if it goes bad, you can eat some money to move him out if you need to, like the Red Sox did.

    Nobody out there is saying I have to have Manny at any price, but there are a few teams that are willing to take Manny at a given price, and for that reason, late in the process, probably next week, you are going to see at least one other club jump in and make a move, to see if they can trump the Dodgers on the 2 year offer.

    I do not think the Yankees are completely out, I do not think the Mets are completely out, and I think the dark horse in all of this could possibly be the Cubs.

    The Manny would certainly put the Cubs over the top, and make them favorites in the National League. The Tribune Company has the team for sale, and is dragging its feet because they want to make a World Series run and cash out high, and Manny could help them do that, and for them, the Tribune Company, because they are selling, every deal they sign is to them a 1 year deal.

    So the market for Manny is as follows…

    Most likely, the Dodgers have not made their best offer, and to allow Manny to save a little face, they up their 2 year offer to $47-50M.

    Possibly, but not probably, the Yankees come in late with something in the $50-55M area. If the Yankees are not players, perhaps the Mets come in and trump the Dodgers.

    However, I do not see any of these 3 clubs getting into an auction, or going a 3rd year.

    The Wildcard in this whole thing is the Cubs. There is a 10% chance they are playing it close to the vest, and plan to come in really hard, at the 11th hour, and go $55 million or above. If that happens, because of the unique circumstance where the team is going to be sold, you never know, they could put out the 3rd year, let’s say at something like $65M just to close it.

    All you Red Sox fans out there want to see Manny get screwed, and at the same time get double the satisfaction by seeing Boras get caught overplaying his hand, but you have to take into account one thing.

    Boras may be a jerk, in fact, there is no maybe about it, but he NEVER is bluffing, and he ALWAYS gets the offer.

    Comment by Eric Gallagher | December 30, 2008 | Reply

    • I agree that he will eventually have some suitors, but I was focused on the lack of teams interested from the start. This is not to my delight as a Red Sox fan. That was not my reasoning for writing this article. But, otherwise, you do make some very valid points. I don’t see the Yankees getting involved, but I could see teams that are itching to take the next step to go after him. Teams that are close to title contenders but need something to put them over the top. This would mean the Cubs and Dodgers. I do think the Dodgers will end up bringing him back, and think the Cubs will go after less expensive options, such as Milton Bradley, to fill their vacancy. One more thing, if Boras was to get the offer he wants, Manny would be looking at a 4-year contract worth $100 million dollars. What I was trying to get across by writing this article is that his value has plummeted and teams are wary of getting overly involved (case and point, “I do not see any of these 3 clubs getting into an auction”). Thanks for the comment, you really make some very good arguments.

      Comment by swamigp | December 30, 2008 | Reply

  2. I agree in the respect that Manny is not getting a 4 year deal, that was never going to happen, not at his age especially given this market, even before the Boston meltdown. Maybe you can say that the whole Boston thing cost him a contract year, if he he only ends up with a 2 year deal, which is likely the case.

    I don’t think the Yankees are going to bid, but you never know.

    Right now, the Yankees, Mets, and Cubs, for weeks have been telling Boras, we are not making an offer, but we’re not out, keep us posted.

    When the time comes next week when Boras goes to all interested parties and asks for their highest and best offers, I believe at least one of the 3 will get involved.

    Given the unique circumstances the Cubs find themselves in, which I described earlier, maybe, just maybe, they call Boras back and tell him to call them last, and that they will counter all offers.

    That is where a guy like Boras smells blood in the water, and squeezes the 3rd year out of them.

    However, if you had to handicap it, the odds are that he goes back to the Dodgers at two years, and just marginally abovwe the original $45M, so Manny can save face, and the Dodgers don’t get a disgruntled player, because Manny will then know he got every last dollar that was out there for him.

    The Cubs are the dark horse, and don’t discount that. Boras always gets the money, and it almost always happens by taking the guy somewhere else.

    Comment by Eric Gallagher | December 30, 2008 | Reply

    • I also think that Boras might squeeze a third year out of the Dodgers. The Cubs might be an interesting player for Ramirez, but I think his attitude makes teams skittish. This means the Dodgers, and only the Dodgers will be suitors. Unless the Yankees trade Nady and decide to spend some more, which could be a possibility.

      Comment by swamigp | December 30, 2008 | Reply

  3. yeah……..he’s now like an orphan.. earlier the speculations were going that he might become a Yankee but Tex got that place… now he’s obviously out of option.. but I pray to god that soon a team will adopt him…best of luck Manny…

    Comment by Bryan | December 31, 2008 | Reply

    • Yeah, his options are dwindling, although the San Francisco Giants are thought to be making an aggressive push for him. Good move on their part because even if they don’t get him, they’ll drive the price up for the Dodgers.

      Comment by swamigp | January 1, 2009 | Reply


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